Do you think that our current war in Iraq is a “modern day Crusade”? Why or why not? Also, what lessons can we learn from the Crusades that might be helpful in evaluating our current situation in the Middle East? Check out this link for help: http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=1184489
Commentator and historian James Reston draws parallels between the Crusades and the current conflict in the Middle East. Click on the Listen in the top left corner of the page to access the audio clip.
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i would say it is not becuase we aren't fighting for religious reasons-there are many religious people in the war though so if we wanted to make it religious it wouldn't be hard :) :) :) :)
I do not think that the modern day war in Iraq is a Crusade. First, people are not fighting over religion they are fighting over power. Second, there are multiple groups fighting the war unlike the Crusades. Third, the Crusades are a lot of different wars. The war in Iraq is ONE LONG war. All in all, the modern day War in Iraq is not a Crusade.
I don't think our war in Iraq is a modern crusade, but it could be viewed that way. It could be viewed this way because George W. Bush said that he was envoking God's blessings when entering the war. Also, sodiers were put on the news praying before battle. A lesson we learned is that peace didn't come back for another 800 years after the crusades, this might apply to the current war.
No, I do not think the war in Iraq is a crusade! It is not a crusade because the war did not start over a religion. People are probably religous and think that God or Allah is watching over them and protecting them, but people do that in every day life. So ya.... thats why I think the war in iraq is not a Crusade.
I would say the current war in Iraq has some formalities of a crusade but is not a full blown crusade. I think this because George Bush has said in a speech on Iraq that our war was a crusade. I think he personally believes it is a crusade but the army doesn’t. Our militants are not trying to attack innocent adult and kid Muslims; they are not trying to wipe out the whole Muslim population either. Also, we are not loosing or being completely killed in the war in Iraq like the old crusaders. As you can see the war in Iraq has few similarities with a crusade.
i think that it is a crusade because i saw in the newspaper one time that it said "our war is a modern day crusade," even though we are not fighting over religion we are fighting for somthing else. but it shares up some of the same principals like christians and muslims fighting again just like in the crusades. so i think it is like the the crusades execpt with modern day technology. The crusades also turned out to be a total mess. I think that will eventaully get a new leader and stop this nonsence and fix what was screwed up. Blake Dodds write this.
i would say it is not a religious war. i think this because it is not between two religions and if we wanted it to be a religious war it would be easy to do so. i also think that we are just getting into a middle of a civil war and is non of our business to get in the middle of it. so i think that it is not a religious war. :D
I think that the war in Iraq is a modern day crusade in some ways. For example, we are killing innocent people just like in the crusades so that we can take their land. Also our leader is saying that God wanted this. Also soldiers have been seen going to church and being blessed with holy water. Muslims are also praying while the soldiers are going to church. They are both invoking the name of Allah and God. Also are we just going to leave Iraq when we finally get it? That is what the Christians did and the Muslims just took it right back. The lessons we can learn from the Crusades are: 1. The Arab blood that was spilled will never be forgotten. 2. After the Christians took the Holy Land they left it unoccupied, the perfect opportunity for the Muslims to take it back. 3. The Crusades lasted 80 years and there was never a moment of peace. 4. A Christian king named Richard had an epiphany but sadly it came too late. After looking at the different that we have learned we should ask ourselves a few questions. 1. Are the Muslims remembering all the blood that was spilled? 2. Are we planning on capturing Iraq and then leaving them to figure it out on their own? 3. How long are we planning on being in war with these people? 80 years? 4. Will George Bush have his epiphany too late? This is in some ways a modern day Crusade. :(
i think it is and isnt at the same time. first they are fighting over something they both want, but at the same time it is not over religious reasons. ya people that are in the was may be religous but the war isn't over religion.
i think it is and isnt at the same time. first they are fighting over something they both want, but at the same time it is not over religious reasons. ya people that are in the was may be religous but the war isn't over religion.
I also think it isn't a modern day Crusade because we aren't fighting for religious but in some ways we are.
I don't think that the war in Iraq. For example, we arn't fighting in Iraq for religious reasons. Ya, people pray and stuff but we didn't go to Iraq because of it. Also, in the Crusades, they were fighting over "the holy land". We arn't fighting over land either. That is why i think that the war in Iraq is not a modern day Crusade.
I believe that the war in Iraq is a modern day crusade. There are three things that make me believe this: we went in without knowing about the environment, we don’t have anyone to stay behind, and we underestimated the Iraqis power. In Iraq we have NO history or background in the environment of the Middle East. We are not adapted to live in that harsh hot climate. We also don’t have any one to leave behind in Iraq once we leave. If we leave there will only be violence, but there are people who would say that we are making more problems than we are solving in Iraq. We also went into Iraq not knowing anything about our opponents. We just stormed in thinking we could take over. And in our case we didn’t have surprise on our side like the Christians did, there was NOOOOOOOO way we could win anyway. In conclusion, this so called "war on terror" is just a waste of time money and American lives.
I do see the war in Iraq as a modern day crusade. First of all, Bush has even said that the war is like a crusade! He would not say that if it was not. Second, a lot of soilders there have even been praying before going to war. Is it just a coincidence that a lot of the U.S. soilders are christians and they are fighting many mulums? Sure, their not fighting over land, but the U.S. is sending numorous groups of soilders to the middle east and I say, yes, the war in Iraq is definitey a modern day crusade.
I think that the war in Iraq is sort of like a modern day Crusade, but not quite. Instead of fighting over holy land we are fighting over oil. Also, the Crusades were a series of wars, but the war in Iraq is one long war. That is why I think the war in Iraq is like the Crusades in someways, but unlike it in other ways.
I think that this is very close to a crusade. True it did not start over religious reasons but we are killing people that did nothing to us. Also we are not welcome there. In the Mpr short radio thing that we listened to said that they took a picture of Saddam Hussein and beast it with a shoe. They wanted him out. But a few weeks later they were beating Bush’s picture with a shoe. They wanted him out. Both the crusades and the Iraq war the natives wanted the invaders out. So no it not currently a crusade but it is to close for comfort.
the war could be viewed as a crusade becuase of many religios people in the war-us not being able to leave-the capture over the city keeps leaving and coming back into are hands-and we have to different faiths in the war :) :) :) :) :)
i think that it is a cruasade
I think the war in Iraq is not like a modern day crusade because there isn’t religion involved in it as much as the Crusades were. For example, we went into Iraq to disarm Sadam Hussein from weapons of mass destruction. Even thought there weren’t any weapons of mass destruction. When the Latinas went into Jerusalem, they wanted to take back the Holy land and own it. We don’t think Iraq is a holy place and we don’t want Iraq to be a part of the United States. Also, we aren’t systematically killing thousands of innocent people. In conclusion, the war in Iraq is not like a modern day crusade.
I think that we are in a crusade in every way, except for the fact that they faught in religion, and we are not.
I think that the war in Iraq is not like another crusade because the original crusades were much more brutal than the war in Iraq. The crusaders ended up being so mad that they started killing their allies. They also pretty much fought something to hard for them to achive. Iraq and the American troops don't do any of that stuff. That is why I think the war in Iraq is not like to old crusades.
No I don think the war in Iraq is a modern day crusade because we are not going in for a religious reason. We are also not being told that all our sins will be forgivin if we kill a lot of inocent people. True we are murdering a lot of inocent people but troops are going in for a complety different reason. That still doesn't make it right. In conclution the war in Iraq is not a modern day Crusade.
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No because it is not about religion or fighting for the land.Also i think yes because we have some with great power telling us to do this. With us bush is telling us and in the Crusades the pope was telling them to go fight. I don't know if it is or not if I had to choose I would say no.
In some ways, I think that the war in Iraq is like a modern day crusade. In the first lesson of the crusades, it says that Arab blood was spilled almost ankle deep, and that it will never be forgotten. This is true, and it is like killing many people for no apparent reason, especially innocent ones. I mean, yes they did cause 9/11, but does that mean we should kill all Iraqis? I think not. Later we go on to say that after this happened; people stripped off their armor and fell to their knees in a celebration of self congratulations. The second lesson goes to the matter of occupation. After Jerusalem fell, the crusaders felt that they had done what they had come to do. We have come to get back for 9/11 for happening, and I think some Iraqis fear us, and we fear them haven’t we done what we came to do?. In the third lesson, the Latin kingdom lasted for 80 years. In those years, there was never peace. Throughout the war in Iraq there has never been peace. There are hundreds dying every day in Iraq, and that is definitely not peaceful. In the fourth lesson, Richard the I went alone on the third crusade. Allies all backed out and realized that it really wasn’t worth it. I think in the U.S. some people hate Bush and want to back out on the war, just like Richard did in the crusades. In the end, I think we are turning our world into a modern day crusade.
I think that the war in Iraq is a modern crusade. First, in our notes it said tha a Chirstian priest was blessing the US army before they went into battle. Second, George W. Bush said it was a Crusade. Third, George W. Bush also said that the army had God's blessings. Last, the army is somewhat fighting for the holy land. In conclusion, the war in Iraq is a modern day Crusade.
I think that the war in iraq is a modern day crusade. I think this because the people want us out but we won't get out. That is just like the crusades.The lessons we can learn from the crusades are that once we take over a place we can't just leave.Second there are many religious people in the war. Next our government has posted a lot of religious comments.Last is resentment. That is why the war is a modern day crusade.
I think that the war in Iraq is not a modern day crusade. First, Crusades were about religion (Muslims vs. Christians). The modern day war in Iraq is not about religion. Second, in Crusades people were fighting over land, the war in Iraq is not about land. This are two reasons why I think the war in Iraq is not a modern day Crusade. The lesson we learned is that when you start a war you can not just walk out of it. You have to finish it.
I think that our modern day is not a crusade because it did not start over religion. It started over weapons. But there is one reason why our modern day war might be like a crusade because it is a total disaster and embarrassing to our country. But mainly I don't think this war is a modern day crusade because it had nothing to do with religion. All it had to do with was weapons.
I think that our modern day war is not a crusade because it did not start over religion. It started over weapons. But there is one reason why our modern day war might be like a crusade because it is a total disaster and embarrassing to our country. But mainly I don't think this war is a modern day crusade because it had nothing to do with religion. All it had to do with is weapons.
I think that the war in Iraq is mainly not a Crusade, but it has started to show characteristics of one and therefore may turn into one. We(USA) originally went into Iraq to take an evil political dictator(Saddam Hussein) out of power and to quench other suspicious activities going on in that area. The Crusades weren't about taking one person out of power: They were about taking a whole group of people's power away (the Muslims)by attempting to force them out of Jerusalem. Also, the key difference between the war in Iraq and the Crusades is that the war in Iraq erupted for political reasons, and the Crusades were completely based on the whim of religion.
However, the war in Iraq does show potential for turning into a crusade. Mainly, both the Crusades and the war in Iraq have/will never allow the Muslim people to forget what happened to them. After all, in James Reston's first lesson, he clearly states that Salah Al Din was quoted as saying "never forget all of our people's blood (Muslims) that was spilt by the Christians." This implicates that he never wants all Muslims to forget the dishonor that disgraced them and all of their people that died during the Crusades by the swords of the Christians. Lastly, American soldiers in Iraq have shown traits of the Crusaders before them 900 years ago. Some have shown cruelty to suspicious/guilty Iraqi hostages, which is by far more Crusader-like than USA citizen-like. Sometimes, us soldiers will loudly and blindly proclaim that they are fighting in Iraq in the name of God. Now, many people associate God with justice, liberty, and maybe even just Natural Law. After all, isn't He supposed to be forgiving, kind, and, usually, gentle? Most Muslims, however, take these comments as offensive to their religion. Such comments implicate to them that the US soldiers believe the Christian God is better than Allah, which is exactly what the Crusaders assumed througout the Crusades. Heck; if they hadn't believed that in the first place, they may have never even attempted the Crusades! In conclusion, the war in Iraq was not originally a Crusade, but now, with US soldiers, much like the Crusaders, getting carried away with what they are doing for the honors they will most likely recieve(again, just like the Crusaders) it has great potential to turn into one.
I 100% agree with Halston, we are not in Iraq for religious reasons what so ever. The whole war started because the government thought that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction. The Crusades were small wars and that were pretty much pointless over religion. This war besides having gone on long enough is solely about power and control. This modern day war is nothing at all like a crusade.
to lavendersparkles- the Iraqis have not been proven to have any part in the attacks on 9/11
oil!oil!oil!oil!= Iraq, open your eyes
Is the war in Iraq a "modern day Crusade"? I tihnk the war and the Crusades have some simalarites, but in the Crusades the battle was fought over a riligon. But the war in Iraq the battle is over power. There for i do not think that the war is a "modern day Crusade".
I think that our war in Iraq is a modern day crusade, in its own sense. First off all, George W. Bush appointed General William Boykin to lead the hunt for Osama Bin Laden. This religious gulping, non-questioning idiot speaks at evangelical Christian meetings and has been quoted as saying “The war on terror is a fight against satin.” He also has said” My God is bigger than his (Osama Bin Laden’s) God.” To me that seems just like what Osama is saying. So who is better, Osama Bin Laden or William Boykin. They have both been involved in killing thousands of people. Osama Bin Laden was influential in 9/11 and William Boykin was influential on the War On Terror, which has left many innocents dead. Second, God influences G.W.’s decisions. Read this quote from the BBC news. “Nabil Shaath says: "President Bush said to all of us: 'I'm driven with a mission from God. God would tell me, "George, go and fight those terrorists in Afghanistan." And I did, and then God would tell me, "George, go and end the tyranny in Iraq …" And I did. And now, again, I feel God's words coming to me, "Go get the Palestinians their state and get the Israelis their security, and get peace in the Middle East." And by God I'm gonna do it.'"” This administration is completely screwed up. The war is a modern crusade in a sense, and look how last one turned out.
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